Last Updated on: July 22, 2025

Creating Life Changing Wealth with ESOPs with Brian Baughman, Episode #378

David Carothers podcast with Brian Baughman
Facebook
Twitter
LinkedIn

In this episode of the Power Producers Podcast, David Carothers is
joined by Brian
Baughman
, VP of Sales at the Hartwell
Corporation.
They delve into the fascinating world of ESOPs
(Employee Stock Ownership Plans) within the insurance industry. Brian shares
valuable insights on how ESOPs work, their benefits, and why this ownership
structure is a game-changer for businesses looking to create long-term wealth
for their employees. They discuss the significance of fostering ownership
culture, the challenges and advantages of implementing ESOPs, and how it
impacts recruiting and retention in today’s competitive job market.

Key Highlights:

What is an ESOP?

Brian
explains the basics of ESOPs and how they offer employees ownership in the
company, ultimately leading to long-term wealth building.

Benefits of an ESOP

The conversation breaks down the primary benefits of ESOPs: ownership legacy,
tax incentives, and how they can be a major factor in recruitment and
retention
of top talent in the insurance industry.

ESOPs in the Insurance Industry

Brian
emphasizes how ESOPs are changing the game for insurance agency owners,
offering an alternative to selling to third parties and ensuring employees’
long-term financial security.

Recruitment & Retention with ESOPs

David and Brian
discuss how ESOPs help agencies attract and retain top-tier talent,
particularly in an era of remote work and poaching from larger agencies.

The Challenges of Implementing an ESOP

While ESOPs offer many benefits, Brian highlights the time, financial
investment, and compliance involved in establishing one. He shares his
experiences with clients who have successfully transitioned to ESOPs.

ESOP for Long-Term Stability

Brian
explains why ESOPs offer more stability compared to selling to private equity
firms or competitors, allowing agency owners to protect their legacy and their
employees’ futures.

Connect with:

Visit Websites:

 

  •  

The Power Producers Podcast where we are refining and redefining the sales game.

Kyle Houck

Insurance

From Med Device to Middle Market: Lessons on Sales, Risk Management, and Reinventing Yourself in the Insurance Industry

Reinvention is one of the most powerful themes in the insurance industry. Some of the best commercial producers in the country did not grow up wanting to sell insurance. They did not study risk management in college. They did not come from an agency family. They found this industry after they tried something else. They found it after life pushed them toward a career where performance, autonomy, and mindset determine the outcome.

Read More »

From Executive Leadership to Field Underwriting: Lessons Producers Can Learn from Aaron Puchbauer’s Transition into Middle-Market Insurance

The most successful producers in the middle market did not get there because they quoted faster, smiled bigger, or knew how to talk longer. They got there because they learned how to differentiate themselves so clearly that prospects had no choice but to see them as trusted advisors. They learned to operate like businesspeople first and insurance technicians second. They learned how to tie operational mechanics to insurance outcomes. They learned how to control their time, their pipeline, and their future.

Read More »
Commercial

From Newcomer to Contender: What Commercial Insurance Producers Can Learn from Pam Seidler’s Middle-Market Journey

The commercial insurance industry is one of the few professions where someone can enter with no experience, no connections, and no background in risk management and still build a long, lucrative career. But success is never automatic. It requires hunger, humility, curiosity, and the willingness to keep showing up even when the process feels overwhelming. That is why the story of Pam Seidler has already started making waves among new and aspiring commercial producers.

Read More »
Insurance

How AI and Automation Are Reshaping Independent Insurance Agencies

In an industry where tradition often outweighs innovation, artificial intelligence and automation are slowly but steadily reshaping how independent insurance agencies operate. The push toward smarter, more efficient workflows is no longer a matter of if—but when. While many agencies are still evaluating how AI fits into their operations, early adopters are already reaping the benefits of streamlined submissions, faster processing, and actionable data insights.

Read More »
Producers

Coaching, Competition, and Consolidation: Inside the Protege Mindset That’s Reshaping the Future of Insurance Producers

The commercial insurance industry is changing faster than ever—and not always for the better. Consolidation is accelerating. Service levels are declining. Private equity is pushing agencies to scale in ways that strip out the personal touch that once defined the independent channel. But for the producers willing to do the work, lean into mentorship, and sharpen their craft, this isn’t a challenge—it’s an opportunity.

Read More »

Test Message

Killing Commercial Login