Last Updated on: January 5, 2026

From Newcomer to Contender: What Commercial Insurance Producers Can Learn from Pam Seidler’s Middle-Market Journey

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The commercial insurance industry is one of the few professions where someone can enter with no experience, no connections, and no background in risk management and still build a long, lucrative career. But success is never automatic. It requires hunger, humility, curiosity, and the willingness to keep showing up even when the process feels overwhelming. That is why the story of Pam Seidler has already started making waves among new and aspiring commercial producers.

Pam is a contestant on Season 3 of The Protege. She is also a newcomer to commercial insurance, coming in with personal lines experience but almost no exposure to the middle market. Yet she brings something that is far more valuable than experience: she brings passion, a deep curiosity to learn, and a work ethic that immediately sets her apart.

Her journey serves as a blueprint for every producer who is trying to break into the middle market. It highlights the value of a strong mindset, the importance of choosing the right niche, and the power of leaning into good coaching. It also demonstrates how someone with the right approach can build momentum quickly, even while starting with zero.

This blog features insights from Pam Siedler from AHI Insurance Group.

The Non-Linear Path: How Diverse Life Experience Builds Better Producers

One of the biggest misconceptions about commercial insurance is the belief that producers must come from a traditional background. Many new entrants think they need to work in personal lines for several years, then move into small commercial, then finally take a step toward middle market. They believe the industry expects them to climb an invisible ladder.

Pam’s background destroys that myth.

Her professional journey has stretched across radio, television, live events, senior living, telemedicine, oxygen supply companies, and senior housing placement. She worked in multiple major cities, built relationships across industries, and developed the communication and emotional intelligence that only comes from broad life exposure.

Producers forget that insurance is ultimately a relationship business. It demands the ability to connect with people, to ask smart questions, to understand motivations, and to absorb information quickly. Those skills are shaped far more by life experience than by time spent quoting auto renewals.

Pam’s path was anything but traditional, but it created the exact skillset the best commercial producers possess. Her diversity of experience is now one of her greatest strengths as she steps into middle market.

Why Personal Lines Experience Does Not Translate to Middle Market

In the podcast conversation, Pam talked about the shock of learning how commercial insurance actually works. Even after working as a captive personal lines agent, she quickly realized how different the middle-market world is.

There are several reasons why personal lines skills do not transfer.

The underwriting model is different

In personal lines, there is no such thing as “blocking the market.” Carriers file their rates, the pricing is what it is, and most policies can be quoted with little back-and-forth between the producer and the carrier.

In commercial lines, the producer who reaches the market first gets the priority position. Underwriter relationships matter. Negotiation matters. Storytelling matters. Strategy matters.

The conversation changes

Personal lines is almost always transactional. Middle market is consultative. It requires a completely different vocabulary, process, and mindset. The conversations revolve around operations, risk mitigation, safety, contractual obligations, fleet management, experience modification factors, return-to-work programs, and loss drivers.

There is simply no overlap.

The stakes are higher

One missed exclusion or overlooked endorsement can cause hundreds of thousands of dollars in uncovered losses. Producers must understand operations deeply and present themselves as trusted advisors. That depth of understanding never develops in personal lines.

This is why I often tell new producers not to “wait their turn” by starting with personal lines. Start in the middle market if that is where you want to be. Learn the model early. Build your skills early. Avoid picking up habits that will have to be broken later.

Pam’s success so far proves the point. She did not take the long road. She went straight to the arena she wanted to be in.

The Value of Coaching, Content, and Curiosity

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One of the things that stood out most about Pam was her commitment to being a sponge. Before joining The Protege, she immersed herself in every piece of educational content she could find. She watched YouTube videos, listened to podcasts in the car, and consumed interviews with industry experts.

One story she shared said everything producers need to know about preparation.

She watched an episode of The Protege that focused heavily on cold calling. The very next day, during a job interview, the hiring manager asked her to role-play a cold call. Because she had watched the episode the night before, she was ready.

She nailed it.

Too many producers want growth without the grind. Pam embraced the grind from day one. She did not wait for someone to spoon-feed her the information she needed. She went and got it.

That level of self-driven development is what separates average producers from extraordinary ones. The middle market rewards producers who are students of the game. Pam embodies that mindset.

Niching With Authenticity: Why Passion Drives Production

Another compelling part of Pam’s story is how she chose her niche. She did not pick something random and go after something she thought would simply be profitable but chose niches that align with her own identity and passions:

  • Animal care
  • Veterinary practices
  • Mobile pet groomers
  • Boarding and daycare facilities
  • Groomers
  • Real estate and multifamily
  • Industrial properties

The animal-care niche is particularly powerful for her because she has lived and breathed that world for years. She founded a large animal welfare organization adn ran transport networks, built relationships with kennels, rescue groups, shelters, and foster families and understands their culture, their language, and their frustrations.

That authenticity is invaluable.

Most producers make the mistake of choosing a niche based solely on premium size. They forget that passion drives persistence. When you deeply care about the people in your niche, you show up differently.

Pam is not entering the animal-care niche as an outsider. She is entering as one of them. That level of alignment builds trust faster than any scripted sales pitch ever could.

And as I told her on the podcast, the niche itself is a goldmine. Mobile pet groomers alone can produce twenty to thirty thousand dollars in premium. The quoting process can be completed in minutes. And the demand is exploding.

When passion aligns with opportunity, great things happen.

Leadership, Culture, and the Importance of Team Sports

One of the central themes in the podcast conversation was leadership. Specifically, how leadership can make or break a producer’s success.

Having spent decades coaching producers and consulting with agency owners, I have seen one unmistakable pattern: people who grew up in team environments tend to make the strongest producers and the strongest leaders.

Pam resonated with this immediately.

Team sports teach accountability, communication, collaboration, how to pick up their teammates when they fall short and push someone when they are capable of more.

These are the exact traits that agency cultures desperately need.

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When producers interview at agencies, they often forget to ask the questions that reveal the truth about culture. Instead of asking about commission splits or carrier access, they should be asking deeper questions like:

  • Can I speak with three of your current clients?
  • Can I speak with three clients who left your agency in the last year?
  • Can I speak to your top producers?
  • Can I speak to the producers who are struggling?

Those questions expose reality. They reveal whether an agency actually lives the culture it promotes in interviews. They show whether an agency truly supports producers or simply recycles them.

Pam asked the right questions. Every producer should.

The Role of Support Systems: Why Producers Rarely Win Alone

Commercial insurance is an emotional rollercoaster. Some days you feel unstoppable. Other days you question whether you made the right decision. It is hard to build a book of business from zero. It is even harder to keep going when you do not yet see the results.

That is why the most overlooked component of a producer’s success is the support they have at home.

I shared with Pam how my agency began. Ten years ago, sitting at the dining room table, I was ready to take a VP role at one of three Fortune 500 companies. My wife looked at me and said:

“You have complained for eight years that nobody listens to your ideas. Why not start the agency you always talked about and prove them wrong?”

She believed in me before I fully believed in myself. She gave me the push I needed, and five minutes later I filed for my LLC.

Without that support, Florida Risk Partners would not exist today.

It is the same reason Producers in Paradise requires spouses and partners to attend. Producers need emotional support more than anyone realizes. When the person at home believes in you, the battle gets much easier. When they do not, the battle becomes almost impossible.

Pam is stepping into this industry at the same point so many others have been: the beginning of a new chapter, filled with uncertainty but fueled by belief. Support matters.

Content, Credibility, and the Modern Producer

Another important lesson from the episode is the power of content. Many producers still underestimate how much business can come from digital platforms. Last year alone, I wrote over one hundred thousand dollars of revenue from people who follow my posts and podcasts.

Producers who ignore content creation are leaving opportunity on the table. Content is the new business card. It allows prospects to learn how you think before they ever meet you. It creates inbound momentum that compounds over time.

Pam is proof that content affects people you will never meet. She consumed hours of material before ever sending a message. It shaped her interview performance and helped her understand the industry also influenced her decision to apply for The Protege.

Every producer has the same opportunity to influence others the same way.

Final Takeaway: The Industry Needs More Pams

It was disappointing to see that Pam was the only woman who applied for Season 3. Not because she needed competition, but because the industry desperately needs more representation. The industry needs more women. It needs more minorities, voices, people who bring new perspectives, fresh ideas, and genuine passion.

Pam is not in the competition because she is a woman. She is in because she earned it, reached out, took action and put herself out there.

Her journey proves that anyone with the right mindset can break into the middle market and thrive.

And that is the message every new producer needs to hear.

Start where you want to be. Learn aggressively. Pick a niche that lights you up. Surround yourself with good leadership. Build a support system. Lean into the process. And trust that big strides always start with small steps.

Pam’s story is just beginning. But it is already a playbook for every producer who wants to follow the same path.

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